[html4all] Request for review of alt and alt value for authoring or publishing tools
Leif Halvard Silli
lhs at malform.no
Tue Apr 15 14:56:38 PDT 2008
Ian Hickson 08-04-15 20.56:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008, John Foliot wrote:
> > Ian Hickson wrote:
>
> There's no way to know. My point is that this:
>
> <figure>
> <img src="a.jpeg">
> <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the
> Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend>
> </figure>
>
> ...is significantly less annoying than this:
>
> <figure>
> <img src="a.jpeg" alt="I snapped this photo the other day while
> walking around the Googleplex and saw Ian
> Hickson working at his desk.">
> <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the
> Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend>
> </figure>
>
And why do you come with that comparison? To bad things, and let's see
what is best?
Btw, I think it was at AListApart I read that AT users disliked that the
content of the TITLE element was repeated in the <H1> element.
> ...while providing no less information -- and arguably more, since in the
> second case the image-disabled user can't easily distinguish it from this
> third case:
>
> <figure>
> <p>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the
> Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</p>
> <legend>I snapped this photo the other day while walking around the
> Googleplex and saw Ian Hickson working at his desk.</legend>
> </figure>
>
> ...which, per spec, is semantically equivalent.
>
>
A third bad example, again talking about the fact - yest - that it is
possible to have alt content without having the embedded content in place.
But, why would anyone drop to place a photo inside <figure> or forget
the SRC inside <IMG>? How often does that happen? Is it a real problem?
Do you think that anyone will actively try to fool AT users? So: No one
care about alternative content, unless they can use it to fool an AT user?
For that matter, even if ther is a IMG and a SRC in that IMG, the AT
user cannot know if there actually is any image at that URL. Nor can he
know if it is the right image.
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leif halvard silli
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