[html4all] first principles: don't dig trenches, occupy the high ground

[Steve Faulkner]

Hi gregory,
I agree with you about working "on what we can do, rather than what what wg
members say", but sometimes it is too hard to resist not commenting and i
also think it is sometimes worthwhile.


On 26/08/07, Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus at hicom.net> wrote:
>
> aloha, all!
>
> i for one am not going to get drawn into another what wg blog
> spat for the number of participants in that forum who are there to
> openly exchange ideas can fit on the head of the proverbial pin...
>
> so, i've made the following resolution (which, incidently, is
> my first html4all wiki page):
>
> https://html4all.org/wiki/index.php/User:Oedipus
>
> let's concentrate our energies on what we can do, rather than
> what what wg members say -- i hear enough of that point of view
> on public-html and have neither need nor desire to seek out more,
> just to justify a position which needs no justification...  we
> need to work with our natural allies in the struggle to keep and
> improve the accessibility, useability, and semantic structure of
> HTMLx -- the internationalization effort, the device independence
> and ubiquitous web groups come to mind...
>
> so, i for one am abandoning the stalemate tactics of trench warfare,
> fighting over meaningless patches of territory at great cost, only
> to retreat back to the trenches -- for what?  the higher the ground
> which you occupy, the stronger your position and the broader your
> perspective becomes -- that's simply one of the first principles
> of warfare, along with take the initiative, especially when
> outnumbered....
>
> just my (rapidly devaluating) 2 cents (american)
> gregory.
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> DISCUSSION, n.  A method of confirming others in their errors.
>                     -- Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>           Gregory J. Rosmaita, oedipus at hicom.net
>       Camera Obscura: http://www.hicom.net/~oedipus/
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ---------- Original Message -----------
> From: "Steve Faulkner" < sfaulkner at paciellogroup.com>
> To: "advocate group" <list at html4all.org>
> Sent: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:06:15 +0100
> Subject: [html4all] news from the trenches
>
> > There has been a somehwat heated exchange over on the whatwg
> > blog that some of us have been involved in: Why the Alt
> > Attribute May Be Omitted [http://blog.whatwg.org/omit-alt ]
> >
> > Also
> > apparently "frank" a reader of Roger's blog agrees with me about
> > hicks html 5 "issues page" issue:
> >
> > [
> >
> http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200708/the_html_5_circus_why_i_left_
> and_rejoined_the_w3c_html_working_group/#comment35
> > ]
> >
> > Frank wrote:
> > "For those people who are enchanted with HTML5, this example of
> > what the WHAT WG thinks is open and inclusive should be an
> > indication of the direction that HTML5 is taking the Web.
> >
> > Ian Hickson wrote an application to list the outstanding issues
> > with HTML5. Here is the link:
> >
> > http://www.whatwg.org/issues/
> >
> > Guess what happens when you open the link with IE 7 (I assume
> > the same happens with IE 6)? You get this message:
> >
> > "Your Web browser does not support DOM3 Core, which is required
> > by this application."
> >
> > So much for open and inclusive!
> >
> > Roger, glad you are going to re-join the HTML WG. They need more
> > grown-ups."
> >
> > --
> > with regards
> >
> > Steve Faulkner
> > Technical Director - TPG Europe
> > Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium
> >
> > www.paciellogroup.com | www.wat-c.org
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> ------- End of Original Message -------
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with regards

Steve Faulkner
Technical Director - TPG Europe
Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium

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