[html4all] Figure ideas (was: Article by Catherine: Feedback on accessibility concerns in HTML5)

[Leif Halvard Silli]

On 2007-09-22 01:39:21 +0200 rob at robburns.com wrote:
>> On 2007-09-21 05:06:25 +0200 Robert Burns <rob at robburns.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2007, at 9:49 PM, zara wrote:
>> 
>>> The figure element does raise the issue of embedded content that
>>> is illustrative of the prose already included in a document. When
>>> an image is included in a figure element with a caption, that
>>> relationship is explicit
>> 
>> And that is quite important. If the the automatic cross-reference
>> system of HTML 5 is used, then one can create links links to/from a
>> word/words in the caption text and to somewhere else in the document.
>> This could reduce the need for the @longdesc - I mean, not the need
>> for it in the spec, but the need to use the @longdesc.
>> 
>> Also - the caption text would become the natural place to place
>> D-links, if/when they are needed.
> 
> I'm not sure what automatic cross-reference system you're referring 
> to.

[automatic cross-references]: 
<http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/#the-dfn>

(3rd time I refer to the source in this thread.)

> Also, the issue of creating links does not really get at the purpose 
> of
> longdesc. Though it uses a URI, a longdesc should be kept distinct 
> from a
> hyperlink. We want them both to be possible for the same element and 
> we
> want them clearly distinguished. In many ways a longdesc is closer to 
> an
> embedding than it is to a link.

The automatic cross-reference feature is, as much as I understand it, 
a special kind of linking - just as longdesc is another kind of 
special linking.

Are there any viewpoints on my proposal to either use SPAN (and/or 
other phrase elements) - or perhaps even DIV, instead of LABEL and 
LEGEND in FIGURE?
-- 
leif halvard silli