[html4all] is SCOPE sufficient - a test based on WCAG2 techniques example

Gez Lemon gez.lemon at gmail.com
Wed Sep 19 11:08:13 PDT 2007


Hi Gregory,

Gregory wrote:
<quote> the test to which i intended to point you is archived at (long
wrapping URI warning)
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2007Sep/att-0056/form-in-table-uses-tabindex-and-scope.html
</quote>

Sorry, it was just me being stupid. The title attribute has been
removed on that page.

<quote>
of course, when i leave the "title" defined for each and every
INPUT element, all of the screen readers at my disposal speak
the contents of the title attribute defined for that INPUT
element when it receives focus, but isn't adding hyper-specific
titles to EVERY input declaration more onerous than simply using
the headers/id model -- especially if you have a tool (or a macro
defined for a tool) that allows you to automatically generate
the proper heading/id binding as a table is constructed?
</quote>

Yes, that's a good point. If the macro was to generate conforming
markup in the form of explicitly associated labels in this scenario,
AT wouldn't need to use the title attribute. The problem would be when
macros generated poor markup. There is also the issue that AT can't
assume that the user has access to helper functions, making it more
important for macros to generate conforming markup.

<quote>
do you think i should extend the example (include more pseudo-
fieldsets, or post an alternate comparative page using headers/id?
</quote>

I don't think it's essential for what you want feedback on, but it
might be a good idea to include headers/id just for completeness. I
suspect the results will be the same in reality, as when entering
data, the user will interact with the example in direct input mode,
rather than browse mode.

Cheers,

Gez




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