[html4all] HTMLWG was Re: html authoring guidelines

Philip Taylor (Webmaster) P.Taylor at Rhul.Ac.Uk
Sun Nov 25 03:14:57 PST 2007


Although I /have/ joined the HTML-WG, I strongly
endorse Vlad Alexander's exposition as to why
some may choose not to.

** Phil.
--------
Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote:
> Hi Charles,
> 
>> I'm intrigued to know of good reasons people cannot join the HTML-WG.
> There is only one reason that I can think of why people "cannot" join the HTML-WG - conflict with the W3C patent policy.
> 
> However, there are good reason why people who do want to participate on the development of the future markup language for the Web and have time to do so, "don't" join the HTML-WG:
> 
> 1. Some people are really turned off by the bullying tone taken by some WG members. Some feel that the HTML-WG culture is that of 'you are with us or you are against us'.
> 
> 2. Some people strongly object/disagree with some of the design principles of X/HTML 5. Joining the HTML-WG is in effect endorsing the design principles of X/HTML 5.
> 
> 3. Some people feel that the HTML-WG suffers from a 'not invented here' mindset, so prospective participants may not join because they feel their contributions will only be struck down.
> 
> 4. Some people feel that the X/HTML 5 spec is written to meet the needs/wants of browser vendors. Prospective participants from other interest groups may feel that their needs/contributions will be marginalized.
> 
> So it is important to have discussion and critique of X/HTML 5 outside the HTML-WG.
> 
> Regards,
> -Vlad
> http://xhtml.com
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Charles McCathieNevile
> Date: 2007-11-24 11:14 AM
>> Hi Vlad,
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:52:28 +0100, Vlad Alexander  
>> <vlad.alexander at xstandard.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Charles, for various reasons, not everyone can join the HTML WG list.
>> I'm intrigued to know of good reasons people cannot join the HTML-WG.
>>
>> I am aware that joining implies a commitment to be honest about patents  
>> you know of, and I hope that is not a reaon anyone is holding back. I  
>> specifically asked about Apple, who seem to hold most of their video  
>> discussion on WHAT-WG (where there is no patent policy of any kind), but  
>> was reassured that they believe the policy applies to whatever they add to  
>> HTML, no matter where they hold the discussion.
>>
>> I realise there are good reasons why people might not be able to  
>> effectively participate (or even deal with the amount of traffic). Did you  
>> mean something more than this?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Chaals
>>
> 
> 
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